in a spur of the moment unplanned msn conversation between myself and ice queer, we decided to log our msn chat and make it an interview style and well publish it... .. so here it is ICE Queer exposed... i wish i had some naked pictures to just add with this line....
Q says: (1:53:42 PM)
ice queer, whats up love
Q says: (1:54:08 PM)
how is everything with you been lately
Ice Queer says: (1:54:32 PM)
good not bad, having a headache from that Islamist teacher at the hospital todayQ says: (1:54:56 PM)
so i have heard he takes 15 minutes before start of class and after class preaching you...
Q says: (1:55:00 PM)
so i have question for you
Q says: (1:55:12 PM)
how long have you had gay friends or have been involved in this gay scene
Ice Queer says: (1:55:28 PM)
6 years i guessQ says: (1:55:57 PM)
so ever since you have been 13 ?
Ice Queer says: (1:56:15 PM)
15Q says: (1:56:51 PM)
oh yea i keep forgetting you are not 19 anymore
Ice Queer says: (1:57:18 PM)
lol I'm 100! :PQ says: (1:57:20 PM)
so what 6 years in the scene.. what do you notice the general trend or the general thing about the scene about the people
Ice Queer says: (1:57:56 PM)
people/player changes but the game is always the sameQ says: (1:58:18 PM)
in what since ya3ni ?
Ice Queer says: (1:59:12 PM)
The Queens, the Muscle Marries, the party animals...etc those labels always remain but the persons change!Ice Queer says: (1:59:35 PM)
that's about the peopleQ says: (1:59:49 PM)
what about friends.. ?
Ice Queer says: (1:59:53 PM)
about the scene, well I don't believe that Egypt has a GAY sceneIce Queer says: (2:00:17 PM)
about friends, It's not that hard to make really good friends but you just need time and patienceQ says: (2:00:48 PM)
when i use to be younger and your age (not that i am old i am only 26)
Q says: (2:01:02 PM)
i use to notice something every 3 months or so
Q says: (2:01:19 PM)
the group of friends i have had changed... within the same players its like we were playing musical chairs
Ice Queer says: (2:02:46 PM)
Well, I believe it differs from a person to anotherIce Queer says: (2:02:58 PM)
also you should consider external factorsIce Queer says: (2:03:05 PM)
like timing, maturity..etcQ says: (2:03:44 PM)
okay so here as an interesting question or at least i would like to believe so
Q says: (2:03:52 PM)
on Queen E awkward sex and city blog
Q says: (2:04:06 PM)
how do you feel about the change of your name from kiki jr to snitch jr.
Ice Queer says: (2:04:45 PM)
It's funny for meIce Queer says: (2:04:53 PM)
cuz I don't take online world that seriousIce Queer says: (2:04:58 PM)
it's just a virtual world for meQ says: (2:05:42 PM)
but wasnt the change of the name an effect from some incident that happened in our real world
Ice Queer says: (2:09:09 PM)
yeah but as E said it himself "What I write can never be taken or read realistically or literally."Ice Queer says: (2:09:35 PM)
so I've never taken what I read online seriously and never will!Q says: (2:10:08 PM)
which leads me to the question do you think a blog is public or a private space
Ice Queer says: (2:10:47 PM)
a personal space where you are totally free to do whatever u wantQ says: (2:11:25 PM)
but doesn't that contradict the whole idea the blog is on the internet and everyone can read it
Ice Queer says: (2:12:50 PM)
it doesn't follow the rules of "public"Ice Queer says: (2:13:01 PM)
i.e it doesn't have to follow the normsIce Queer says: (2:13:22 PM)
and If anyone doesn't like what he/she reads, then he should leave!Q says: (2:13:46 PM)
let me ask you a question would you write a secret like a very important one on your blog
Ice Queer says: (2:15:01 PM)
Well if my friends donno about my blog, then yeah y not!Ice Queer says: (2:15:24 PM)
and even if my friends know about my blog, i'd still post a secret but according to how black it is!Q says: (2:15:45 PM)
you once told me you shared an article or two with your shrink
Q says: (2:16:00 PM)
if your shrink goes on google and writes the text thats in the article and hits search
Q says: (2:16:07 PM)
he will be able to find your blog easily
Q says: (2:16:21 PM)
also knowing how trustworthy your shrink
Ice Queer says: (2:16:31 PM)
yeah he is my shrink, I don't care about how he would reactQ says: (2:16:32 PM)
my ex shrink* what if
Q says: (2:16:41 PM)
he goes and shows it to your parents
Ice Queer says: (2:16:44 PM)
i can't believe u r comparing friends to a shrink! :PQ says: (2:17:17 PM)
i am not comparing shrink to friends.. i am using a shrink as a plausible way your parents might find out about your blog
Ice Queer says: (2:17:18 PM)
well in this case, I'll find a solutionIce Queer says: (2:18:39 PM)
Anyway my point is, If u've a blog and u want to diss people and talk about them then you should keep ur identity top secret, even from your friends!Q says: (2:19:26 PM)
true in a way but if you are identity is compromised... like our friends know pretty well who is IQ,Q,E...
Q says: (2:20:24 PM)
so is our blog in particular
Q says: (2:20:51 PM)
a personal space or a private space... in comparison with lets say XY a20somethingrambling blog
Ice Queer says: (2:21:23 PM)
my blog is more personal than public
Ice Queer says: (2:21:49 PM)
most of guys I wrote about donno my blog and don't even know that I blog/writeQ says: (2:22:11 PM)
but some do and you know love how gossip flies...
Q says: (2:22:18 PM)
didnt K find about your blog?
Ice Queer says: (2:22:29 PM)
because I told him!Q says: (2:23:06 PM)
oh ... what guts!
Ice Queer says: (2:23:36 PM)
hmm not reallyQ says: (2:24:03 PM)
well when you re-write about him
Q says: (2:24:09 PM)
are you going to tread carefully now
Q says: (2:24:51 PM)
or are you going to be as open
Ice Queer says: (2:25:52 PM)
as openQ says: (2:27:12 PM)
fair enough ... IQ what do you think would make this interview more interesting ... i mena by adding a topic to it.. like you ask or suggest something :P
Ice Queer says: (2:28:56 PM)
lol I know that the comments will be that am a celeb. wannabe..etcIce Queer says: (2:29:00 PM)
but what the heck!Q says: (2:29:36 PM)
or more likely known as social climbing whore
Ice Queer says: (2:31:07 PM)
lolQ says: (2:31:21 PM)
how does that make you feel
Ice Queer says: (2:31:58 PM)
nothingIce Queer says: (2:32:13 PM)
it's silly thu cuz it's far away from the truthQ says: (2:32:34 PM)
how often does IQ have sex per month
Ice Queer says: (2:33:02 PM)
I don't have a certain patternIce Queer says: (2:33:12 PM)
it depends on guys I would like to sleep withIce Queer says: (2:33:16 PM)
on my moodIce Queer says: (2:33:18 PM)
..etcQ says: (2:33:25 PM)
how many guys have you slept with in the month of may
Ice Queer says: (2:33:48 PM)
I don't keep trackIce Queer says: (2:33:55 PM)
It was never a "number" for meQ says: (2:34:12 PM)
hmm lets see the gulfie then two over last weekend... maybe one or two other so is 5 a safe number :P
Ice Queer says: (2:34:45 PM)
Would I need my lawyer in this interview?Ice Queer says: (2:34:47 PM)
lolQ says: (2:34:59 PM)
no not really
Q says: (2:35:01 PM)
lol
Q says: (2:35:10 PM)
so we say 5 but at the moment you have a crush on this guy
Q says: (2:35:13 PM)
called K
Ice Queer says: (2:35:34 PM)
yeah but am recovering rapidlyQ says: (2:36:08 PM)
ohhhhh any new crush on the horizon
Ice Queer says: (2:36:36 PM)
fortunately not!Q says: (2:36:59 PM)
tab i have a question do you sometimes feel like you are stuck .. in a routine
Q says: (2:37:11 PM)
for me its work... gym... during weekdays with the ocassional
Q says: (2:37:14 PM)
movie time
Q says: (2:37:29 PM)
while on weekends a party or two... do you not feel like we are stuck
Ice Queer says: (2:37:29 PM)
def.!Ice Queer says: (2:37:49 PM)
yeah but it's every where!Q says: (2:37:55 PM)
well you being a student you know that one last forever though .. sa7 ?
Ice Queer says: (2:38:21 PM)
And actually I guess we r less routinic than Europeans and more developed countriesIce Queer says: (2:38:42 PM)
it will last but the studying/college will change to working/jobQ says: (2:38:46 PM)
elaborate in alot details boy
Ice Queer says: (2:39:31 PM)
We Egyptians r very laid backIce Queer says: (2:39:55 PM)
Europeans/west are more working machinesIce Queer says: (2:40:12 PM)
so their life is more routinic than usIce Queer says: (2:40:17 PM)
working in week daysIce Queer says: (2:40:22 PM)
partying in weekendsIce Queer says: (2:40:39 PM)
but in Egypt u can go out with ur friends after work finishesIce Queer says: (2:40:47 PM)
bottom line; the city doesn't sleep!Q says: (2:40:48 PM)
but you do that in europe too
Ice Queer says: (2:41:21 PM)
yeah but most of cities of Europe sleep at 10!Q says: (2:41:39 PM)
true
Q says: (2:42:00 PM)
the stores closes at 5 or 7 too!!
Ice Queer says: (2:42:13 PM)
yeahQ says: (2:42:41 PM)
hold on a second work call
Ice Queer says: (2:42:51 PM)
sure
Q says: (2:52:33 PM)
sorry for keeping you waiting
Q says: (2:52:40 PM)
work guys are pathetically stupid
Ice Queer says: (2:52:59 PM)
lolIce Queer says: (2:53:01 PM)
its okayQ says: (2:53:47 PM)
so yea so you feel like is in a runt
Q says: (2:53:58 PM)
what is that you wish to accomplish lets say 3 years from now
Q says: (2:54:46 PM)
or more where do you see yourself
Ice Queer says: (2:55:00 PM)
Hopefully, doing my master degree abroadQ says: (2:55:22 PM)
okay so is it for work
Ice Queer says: (2:55:37 PM)
that was the deal with my parents, saving money for masters abroad instead of wasting it on lousy private medical college in EgyptQ says: (2:55:45 PM)
and career reasons
Q says: (2:55:49 PM)
or you just want to get out of egypt
Q says: (2:57:00 PM)
like what i guess i am trying to ask is that does Egypt make you stressed out and make you feel like you are in runt and
Q says: (2:57:34 PM)
like you dont see your future here
Ice Queer says: (2:57:43 PM)
The thing about Egypt that I love it and hate it in same timeIce Queer says: (2:57:52 PM)
yeah I don't see my near future hereIce Queer says: (2:57:56 PM)
maybe far futureQ says: (2:58:52 PM)
i guess i have the same issue its like i love it so much but do i see myself dating a guy and living a normal life here and living with him i dont know
Q says: (2:59:01 PM)
we have friends who did so as you know and they are very happy about it
Q says: (2:59:26 PM)
but also in the same time i also come from the aspect if i did that would my life revolve around the scene as you know its very draining
Q says: (2:59:32 PM)
i guess its just tryign to figure out the future
Q says: (3:00:13 PM)
so iQ who inspired you to start your blog ?
Q says: (3:00:22 PM)
for me it was and god created men blog.
Ice Queer says: (3:00:54 PM)
it's a funny storyIce Queer says: (3:01:04 PM)
The lights were out and I was boredQ says: (3:01:11 PM)
please say it was my old blog the gay chronicles :P
Ice Queer says: (3:01:26 PM)
so I was playing solitaire using the pen of my previous laptopIce Queer says: (3:01:36 PM)
and I've never tried to write using that penIce Queer says: (3:01:40 PM)
so I thought to write somethingIce Queer says: (3:01:48 PM)
and ta daa I wrote my first post!Q says: (3:01:59 PM)
ohhhh
Q says: (3:02:33 PM)
your first post was in july 2008 it must have been a boring summer i guess
Q says: (3:02:41 PM)
almost a year from now
Ice Queer says: (3:02:57 PM)
yeah I can't believe my blog lasted all that long!Q says: (3:03:07 PM)
it was called Get a Life People
Ice Queer says: (3:03:17 PM)
I never thought I could even write! I knew I was good at composition in schoolIce Queer says: (3:03:26 PM)
but not to that extentIce Queer says: (3:03:28 PM)
yeah that was itQ says: (3:03:57 PM)
it started with
Q says: (3:04:00 PM)
"I don't know if I was wrong but I hope one day someone will understand what I think or what I believe or what I do, It is just it is too depressing that am surrounded with too many judgmental, hypocritical and schizophrenic mentalities in my/our society in Egypt.
"
Q says: (3:04:38 PM)
how have you changed since that first sentence you wrote... is your belief still the same did you not find someone who understands
Ice Queer says: (3:05:19 PM)
No, it's the same feelingIce Queer says: (3:05:28 PM)
(not talking about my friends, sure my friends understand me)Q says: (3:08:56 PM)
i actually feel somewhat same but different
Q says: (3:09:29 PM)
its like i have the issue of taht i have people who understand what i feel but just because we understand eachother it doesnt make us automatically best friends...
Q says: (3:09:49 PM)
ya3ni i have over the past year or so built some what good friends here... previously i wasnt
Q says: (3:10:16 PM)
because sort of the first time since i moved back i sort of found people who also come from the same background and way of thinking of me... and they sort of went through the same experiances
Q says: (3:10:52 PM)
i might be judged to be a classist sometimes by people.. but hell sometimes i am... its just a fact of egypt... different classes do go through different experiences
Q says: (3:11:21 PM)
as they have different background and different education ... and it does affect them differently and the way their parents take it is different too...
Q says: (3:11:27 PM)
do you know what i mean
Ice Queer says: (3:13:39 PM)
yeahIce Queer says: (3:13:51 PM)
but classes r so clichéQ says: (3:14:31 PM)
do you not believe we are classist society
Ice Queer says: (3:16:15 PM)
"classes" in Egypt got so deformed after the revolutionIce Queer says: (3:16:36 PM)
in Nasser's eraQ says: (3:18:00 PM)
okay well i believe i mean okay
Ice Queer says: (3:18:10 PM)
it's more about either bourgeoisie or nouveau riche or low classIce Queer says: (3:18:12 PM)
nowQ says: (3:18:34 PM)
what you forgot the higher upper class who have been the upper class from long time ago
Ice Queer says: (3:18:59 PM)
they r dieing out!Q says: (3:19:05 PM)
lol
Q says: (3:19:35 PM)
okay but dont you believe the upper/higher/ bourgeoisie etc go through different experience than the middle class and lower
Q says: (3:19:48 PM)
ya3ni the guys with the money travel, they are more educated
Q says: (3:20:24 PM)
they go out to clubs where you have minimum charge to be 100 or 250 pounds
Ice Queer says: (3:20:47 PM)
and u think that all what u've mentioned makes u classy?Q says: (3:22:05 PM)
well no i mean i have met people in those clubs who
Q says: (3:22:15 PM)
way trashie in attitude and god knows what else
Q says: (3:22:46 PM)
but the usually the guys who are of the higher or upper middle class that have access to these sort of things
Q says: (3:23:11 PM)
doesnt mean that all that go there are generally classy in attitude you have seen that girl friend of one of our friends who disappeared
Ice Queer says: (3:23:12 PM)
and so do nouveau riche people!Q says: (3:23:28 PM)
i dont consider her classy at all yet she goes out and parades her boobs all over the place
Ice Queer says: (3:24:16 PM)
exactly my pointIce Queer says: (3:24:30 PM)
not by money, not by education...etcQ says: (3:24:40 PM)
but still my point is those people with the money regardless of it being new money or old money
Ice Queer says: (3:24:45 PM)
u could be classy in attitude thu u r middle class or low classQ says: (3:25:01 PM)
well yes you are true and very right
Q says: (3:25:07 PM)
but my point is not classy in attitude
Q says: (3:25:19 PM)
while not understating the importance of being classy in attitude
Q says: (3:25:59 PM)
my point is those people with the money regardless of it being new money or old money would have access to an experiance similar to what we have hence you have some common ground ... let me rephrase
Q says: (3:26:03 PM)
you are high school
Q says: (3:26:26 PM)
you make friends... its a given that you guys will have the same experiences being in the same high school and you will do all the same things
Q says: (3:26:37 PM)
you grow up together graduate go to uni some of you go even to the same uni
Ice Queer says: (3:27:07 PM)
yeah but still, everyone will perceive those experiences in different waysIce Queer says: (3:27:16 PM)
some wouldn't enjoy it or appreciate itIce Queer says: (3:27:19 PM)
some would go to extremeIce Queer says: (3:27:21 PM)
..etcQ says: (3:27:43 PM)
you are not getting my point though
Q says: (3:28:02 PM)
what i am trying to say having something in common as an experience.. brings you closer together
Ice Queer says: (3:28:06 PM)
yeah I know what u mean by backgroundIce Queer says: (3:28:14 PM)
but is that background is really you?Q says: (3:28:32 PM)
so for me my experience with growing up was major clubbing in clubs around egypt ...
Q says: (3:30:11 PM)
hold on work call
Q says: (3:30:13 PM)
again
Ice Queer says: (3:30:30 PM)
okQ says: (3:37:18 PM)
back
Q says: (3:37:25 PM)
so it wasnt just about clubbing in egypt
Q says: (3:37:40 PM)
it was about clubbing and the memories of us getting drunk
Q says: (3:37:45 PM)
you know what i think it is...
Q says: (3:37:59 PM)
i think i just had too much fun while at uni and i might be trying to recreate those memories
Q says: (3:39:24 PM)
IQ i have to end this interview now and we have to re-continue later do you have any comments or anything you would like to add before ending this
Ice Queer says: (3:42:57 PM)
sorry was talking to that hottyQ says: (3:44:39 PM)
oh well just a reminder this still recorded... yalla lets end this so that i can get back work and what not of my life
Ice Queer says: (3:46:12 PM)
loolIce Queer says: (3:46:21 PM)
Well I enjoyed this interviewIce Queer says: (3:46:30 PM)
I didn't think u'd come with interesting questions :PQ says: (3:46:48 PM)
how dare you IQ
Q says: (3:47:39 PM)
tab come on give us your final words of wisdom of a 20 year old boy to your fans.... (dear IQ fans stop listening to him... i am 26 so i am more experienced and hell i am more popular)
Ice Queer says: (3:48:17 PM)
lolIce Queer says: (3:48:27 PM)
make the most of nowIce Queer says: (3:48:33 PM)
and don't think too muchIce Queer says: (3:48:33 PM)
and oh yeah! *WORLD PEACE* lolQ says: (3:49:43 PM)
okay and with this miss world 2009 style of ending... we shall end this interview till another one
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